What if More Force Could Cause More Growth?
May 05, 2025Two weeks ago in my newsletter More Force, Less Growth? I told you that force isn’t the key to growth—
Duration is.
And the data backed that up.
But like everything in PE…
That wasn’t the full story.
The past month I have been running series of experiments.
Not to chase more force—
But to optimize how force is applied.
And to my surprise:
It wasn’t just how long I trained…
It was how I progressed force in that time.
Can more force be the solution? Sometimes, yes.
But only if it’s applied the right way—at the right time.
The Elongation Threshold
There’s a general rule in the PE world:
A session is only productive if it creates 2% elongation or more.
Now, some guys may grow with 1.5%.
Others may need closer to 2.5%.
But 2% is a solid benchmark for progress.
So I dug into my training logs to see if that was true.
Here’s a chart of my average session elongation vs. my weekly BPFSL growth during a previous training cycle:
Notice how the trendline intercepts zero BPFSL change at 1% elongation.
And once I averaged 1.5% or more, I didn’t have a single data point where BPFSL reduced.
So let’s lock that in:
Elongation is the driver of growth.
Your sessions need to generate 2%+ elongation to be productive.
My “Perfect” Session… Flopped
In More Force, Less Growth, I analyzed my last training cycle and found my supposed “sweet spot”:
- 6 to 8 pounds of force
- 80 to 110 minutes of duration
So I put it to the test:
I ran a session at 7 pounds the entire time, broken into 25-minute sets using a compression hanger.
Elongation was measured after each set.
Here’s the result:
1.8% elongation total.
Disappointing. Below threshold. Not productive.
That session should have worked.
But it didn’t.
So I asked:
What if it’s not just the weight…
Or the time…
But the way force is loaded during the session that matters?
That question kicked off 3 weeks of experiments that completely reframed how I approach training—and might do the same for you.
The Force Progression Breakthrough
What if the answer wasn’t just force or time?
What if it was how force progresses across a session?
Over 4 days, I tested a simple idea:
Start with light force. Increase by 1 pound every set.
Measure elongation after each one.
Here’s what I did:
And visualized:
Even though the sessions varied from 2–11 lbs, every session hit the same 3.3% elongation.
Time—not force—was the driver.
But the really interesting part?
The weight wasn’t held constant.
It was ramped up set-by-set.
Even better—starting at higher forces got me to 2% elongation faster.
Which suggested two important theories:
- Increasing Force Throughout The Session Creates More Elongation.
- Higher Forces Earlier in the Session Creates More Elongation Faster.
That’s when I realized I might be able to cut total time without sacrificing growth.
So I put these new theories to the test.
What if I increased force faster?
That led to Protocol 1.
Protocol 1 — Fastest Gains, But at a Cost
A brutal series of 5-minute sets, increasing force every time.
And it worked—fast:
3.7% elongation in just 50 minutes.
Insane efficiency.
But brutal.
By 70 minutes in I had hit 10.5 pounds and my dick was screaming.
I had soreness, crushed EQ, and needed a rest day.
While Protocol 1 was powerful…
It wasn’t sustainable.
So I refined it.
Protocol 2 — A Better Compromise
Next, I tested a variation:
Protocol 2 used the same 5-minute ramp-ups,
but with brief step-downs in force between sets.
It worked. Even better.
This gave my tissues a break between peaks, avoided early plateau, and reduced fatigue.
Result: 4.2% elongation in 95 minutes.
But this was still too hands-on.
It still required me to micromanage weights every 5 minutes.
I wanted something more sustainable.
Protocol 3 — The Gold Standard
Finally, I tested this:
Protocol 3. Ramp up force quickly for the first 30–40 minutes.
Then settle into longer holds in the 6–8 pound range.
This gave me 4.2% elongation again.
But now with less fatigue and micromanagement.
After repeating the protocol multiple times, I consistently got the same results.
What This Taught Me (and Should Teach You)
In More Force, Less Growth, I showed that trying to use max force from the start is a losing strategy.
But now we know:
- Force does matter
- But it must be progressed
- And it must serve a time-based strategy
Here’s the new lesson:
Use low-to-high ramping force to reach elongation faster…
Then ride the wave with moderate force and extended time.
Simple. Strategic. Sustainable.
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